Curse

pinkeyflower · Jul 21, 2010, 09:31 AM // 09:31

Does the guild Lord count as a defending NPC? Can you solo him?

Xsiriss · Jul 21, 2010, 11:42 AM // 11:42

So worth the update...owait.

Shayne Hawke · Jul 21, 2010, 02:16 PM // 14:16

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Originally Posted by pinkeyflower

Does the guild Lord count as a defending NPC? Can you solo him?

He is not a defending NPC. Only the mentioned bodyguard, archers, and knights count as defending NPCs.

chuckles79 · Jul 21, 2010, 02:41 PM // 14:41

I'm personally kinda tired of the attention that GvG gets. I'm all for keeping PvP viable and interesting, but GvG is only important to a small percentage of players compared to the larger community.
Half of the reason they are having to work on a paragon update at all was because of the massive nerfing of skills they did for GvG balancing.
Until they finally got around to separating PvP and PvE, how many times did we see a nice PvE build ground into dust because it was a part of some GvG gimmick build?

I'm not sure these changes were worth a developer's update; but I don't care if they made this the update for the week (we're so spoiled now, getting weekly updates).

While impatient for upcoming derv and para changes, I appreciate the breakneck pace they set for WiK and the two yearly events held in the last weeks.

Angel Killuminati · Jul 21, 2010, 02:52 PM // 14:52

Moan moan moan, be greatful for what you've got!

Free game equal to years of free gaming, recent WiK storyline, 2 recent festive events and also the team is quite small atm with promised major updates to certain classes in due course. Yet people demand more...RIGHT NOW - DO NOT TAKE SO LONG ANET!

Proof yet again that the internet is filled with impatient spoilt kids.

Skyy High · Jul 21, 2010, 03:01 PM // 15:01

Really? We really have people in here claiming that PvE is not getting any love and they should stop paying attention to PvP? Where the hell have you guys been; did you sleep through the past few months of WiK updates?

Shayne Hawke · Jul 21, 2010, 03:11 PM // 15:11

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Originally Posted by chuckles79

I'm personally kinda tired of the attention that GvG gets. I'm all for keeping PvP viable and interesting, but GvG is only important to a small percentage of players compared to the larger community.

If not GvG, what is PvP balance supposed to center around then? RA? AB?

Missing HB · Jul 21, 2010, 03:45 PM // 15:45

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Originally Posted by Shayne Hawke

If not GvG, what is PvP balance supposed to center around then? RA? AB?

That's the problem... look how those 2 formats are after never getting any update : AB is just empty ( even if there are some people, you need wait 20 restarts to go in ) , and too many problems in RA that have been reported on other threads already.What can we expect for those formats , a delete like they did with HB and TA ?

Actually , the last update we had in Heroes Ascent ( not about skills/builds) is the add of NPC's after a strange contest , and the previous one was about 2 years and half ago....

Test Krewe team has apparently many people who still do GvG , thus it could maybe explain the "only gvg updates " ..

*lemming* · Jul 21, 2010, 03:50 PM // 15:50

GvG gets all the attention because it's a better format.

snaek · Jul 21, 2010, 04:16 PM // 16:16

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Originally Posted by Shayne Hawke

If not GvG, what is PvP balance supposed to center around then? RA? AB?

remember that new ha map they announced back in that "pvp love" announcement that also involved introducing codex? yea, what happened to that ha map?

i also find it funny that you seem to intentionally leave out ha, and skip right to the "shitter" formats. although its funny because i would consider fa/jq/codex the true "shitter" formats, yet these formats seem to receive more updates than ra/ab.

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Originally Posted by missing hb

Test Krewe team has apparently many people who still do GvG , thus it could maybe explain the "only gvg updates " ..

a bit unfair, since anet specifically was biased in choosing gvg players in the formation of the test krewe (if my sources are correct).

Fay Vert · Jul 21, 2010, 10:49 PM // 22:49

Five years of GvG and they still can't make GvG work!

Elnino · Jul 22, 2010, 04:14 AM // 04:14

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Originally Posted by snaek

remember that new ha map they announced back in that "pvp love" announcement that also involved introducing codex? yea, what happened to that ha map?

i also find it funny that you seem to intentionally leave out ha, and skip right to the "shitter" formats. although its funny because i would consider fa/jq/codex the true "shitter" formats, yet these formats seem to receive more updates than ra/ab.

In case you haven't noticed, HA is also a shitter format.
Codex is the only format that has ever been updated in recently. FA/JQ/AB have been untouched for a very long time.

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a bit unfair, since anet specifically was biased in choosing gvg players in the formation of the test krewe (if my sources are correct).

Who can possibly be better than good gvg players?

Quail Stomp · Jul 22, 2010, 05:20 AM // 05:20

I don't understand the bitching about pvp getting some attention. To me pvp does not get enough, not even close to what pve gets. Play the whole game and don't limit yourself to just one format. Also please get over yourself if you think they should only focus on the one format that you play.

Missing HB · Jul 22, 2010, 05:51 AM // 05:51

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Originally Posted by Elnino

In case you haven't noticed, HA is also a shitter format.
Codex is the only format that has ever been updated in recently. FA/JQ/AB have been untouched for a very long time.

Explain why HA is shitter than GvG ??I can't consider it is because of the builds played , since every format ( including GvG) has some meta builds that everyone plays, and many people will agree on the point they would rather fight BBways in HA than waiting 40mn for an opponent which will just make you wait for 25mn more.

For the codex part , yes they touch a bit.. but are these " updates " really useful.. . They look like guy was syncing in codex and lost to people using those skills , thus nerf.
There are things much better than restricting 2 skills every 3 months that could have been done for months ( like in HB/TA ) and i suspect this arena to be deleted in the near future ..

Rikimaru · Jul 22, 2010, 06:45 AM // 06:45

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Originally Posted by Missing HB

Explain why HA is shitter than GvG ??I can't consider it is because of the builds played , since every format ( including GvG) has some meta builds that everyone plays, and many people will agree on the point they would rather fight BBways in HA than waiting 40mn for an opponent which will just make you wait for 25mn more.

For the codex part , yes they touch a bit.. but are these " updates " really useful.. . They look like guy was syncing in codex and lost to people using those skills , thus nerf.
There are things much better than restricting 2 skills every 3 months that could have been done for months ( like in HB/TA ) and i suspect this arena to be deleted in the near future ..

Maybe they'll bring back Hero Arena

It may have been terribly unbalanced, but you have to see the awesomeness of being able to pick out your favorite heroes and build them up and customize them just like your main character, using them in PvP to be able to easily set up an elaborate team build, and having a far more dynamic match than normal by basically controlling four characters at once.
It was also the closest thing we will ever get to 1v1.

Disappointment isn't strong enough to describe my feelings on them actually deciding to remove it entirely.
Something more like shame, maybe. To be associating with a game run by such incomprehensible idiots...

*lemming* · Jul 22, 2010, 10:16 AM // 10:16

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Originally Posted by Missing HB

Explain why HA is shitter than GvG ??I can't consider it is because of the builds played , since every format ( including GvG) has some meta builds that everyone plays, and many people will agree on the point they would rather fight BBways in HA than waiting 40mn for an opponent which will just make you wait for 25mn more.

You are an idiot.

Chucky333 · Jul 22, 2010, 02:35 PM // 14:35

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Originally Posted by Tobi Madera

well u see everyone complaining that pvp is dead, so where does that put teh GW community? In PvE.
So im just saying putting attention now after 2 yrs of neglect to a system is like "Hey honey i finally got enough money to pay that mortage that we couldnt pay 10 yrs ago so we had to leave our house".
so all im saying is if the community is pve atm they should focus on pve not pvp.

The amount of attention given to PvE since pretty much about 2008 has been unproportional compared to PvP.
Give it a rest already and accept the fact that there are people playing PvP and ANET should not devote 100% of their resources to PvE just because that's what you play and you think the world revolves around you and because you deem GvG 'dead'.

PvP has had it's balance issues neglected, a broken tiebreaker mechanic introduced and still not fixed, and arenas removed from it, while you guys were running around Kryta killing white mantles with the new content.

The whining and bitching from pve'rs every time a pvp-related update is released is ridiculous.

Morphy · Jul 22, 2010, 02:43 PM // 14:43

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Originally Posted by Chucky333

The whining and bitching from pve'rs every time a pvp-related update is released is ridiculous.

That's because PvE-ers are idiots.

Bandwagon · Jul 22, 2010, 04:04 PM // 16:04

I'm all for GvG updates, its one of the strong points of PvP in this game. I am just surprised that codex received attention (since its usually a wasteland in terms of participation)

Xenomortis · Jul 22, 2010, 04:39 PM // 16:39

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Originally Posted by Morphy

That's because PvE-ers are idiots.

Only the vocal ones.